Thing I Didn't Expect to See in Rush Hour Traffic

"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips) 08/18/2016 at 09:09 • Filed to: None

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A Citroen Traction Avant! It was on the interstate, going through Columbia.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 09:13

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Gorgeous, love those old Tractions! :D They just have such presence! :)

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 08/18/2016 at 09:14

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It was cool to see, though kind of terrifying.

Noah - Now with more boost. > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 09:42

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These are a really early FWD car I think?

Clemsie McKenzie > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 09:43

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Why, did you think it was the Gestapo?

Steve in Manhattan > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 09:44

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Columbia, MD? Columbia Columbia? Columbia, District of ...?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Steve in Manhattan 08/18/2016 at 09:45

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South Carolina

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Clemsie McKenzie 08/18/2016 at 09:46

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No, just that someone would take an old Citroen on the interstate.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Noah - Now with more boost. 08/18/2016 at 09:46

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Yep.

Clemsie McKenzie > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 09:51

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Yeah, I know what you mean. Don’t to be the one crashing into it...

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Clemsie McKenzie 08/18/2016 at 09:59

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I was on the other side. I was more worried about him holding up traffic.

Clemsie McKenzie > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 10:03

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Well, I don’t know about the speed limit there, but these cars should be able to do well over 60. Emphasis on the should, this is an old Citroen after all!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Clemsie McKenzie 08/18/2016 at 10:04

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Speed limit is 60, but traffic is usually between 75-80.

Rock Bottom > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 10:13

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Traction Avants are shockingly affordable classics. They pop up on Hemmings or Auto Trader Classic pretty regularly. The fact that they just ooze class makes me want one soooo bad!

Rock Bottom > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 10:18

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Want. WANT. $35,000 seems totally reasonable for such a classy machine!

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/ca…

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Rock Bottom 08/18/2016 at 10:19

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I’d rather have a DS, though.

Rock Bottom > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 10:24

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I like them both equally. The DS is pretty awesome. Hell, I once re-watched the whole movie Munich just to see the DS!

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 10:29

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A TA is still my “attainable classic” dream car... the best thing about them, besides the fact that they are relatively common, and haven’t sky-rocketed in price like the DS, is that well sorted ones are totally daily-driveable.

Things a TA has going for it: Comfortable ride, enough (just barely) power to keep up with modern traffic, high-20s/low30s MPG efficiency, surprisingly sprightly handling, genuinely *good* brakes, so much cool it hurts.

Steve in Manhattan > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 10:31

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DC was my closest guess ...

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 10:35

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An 11cv (the later 1.9l 4cyl) will go 70+, if you flog the ever loving piss out of it, it’ll cruise pretty comfortably at 50-55. A 15cv (the very rare and plauged-with-cooling-issues 6cyl) will approach 100 and cruise at 75-80 without much issue as long as you have an uprated water pump and radiator. It’s true, early 7CVs will absolutely be a rolling roadblock on a modern highway, but the pre-war 7s are pretty rare in general, and almost non-existent in North/South America.

duurtlang > Noah - Now with more boost. 08/18/2016 at 10:45

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FWD, unibody, four wheel independent suspension, introduced in 1934. So, basically more modern than a 2011 Ford Crown Vic.

They produced 750k of them.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Noah - Now with more boost. 08/18/2016 at 11:03

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Not the first, but the first mass-produced “standard” as opposed to luxury or special FWD, and the first one to prove that FWD was a viable mass-market prospect and not just an oddity/experiment. Close to a million were manufactured and sold from 1934 to 1956. The TA had a bunch of other advanced features too: unit-body construction with stressed skin and a front sub-frame for service and NVH improvements, independent front suspension with double-wishbone design, telescopic dampers (as opposed to rotary), hydraulic brakes on all four wheels, a cast aluminum trans-axle (a modified version of which was used in mid-engine racecars and changed F1 forever), flat floors, rack-and-pinion steering, and more... it bankrupted the company, but Michelin (Citroen’s biggest creditor at the time of bankruptcy) saw the future and kept things rolling and even let Citroen invest in the design of the incomparable DS... without the TA we would probably live in a very different automotive world.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > duurtlang 08/18/2016 at 11:09

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It’s said that Andre Citoren’s design brief to his engineers was “build me a car so advanced that we won’t have to re-design it for 20 years” It took the auto industry as a whole nearly *50* years to catch up to the TA.

duurtlang > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 08/18/2016 at 11:25

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They even pioneerd the hatchback and self leveling (rear) suspension on that car, although both of those weren’t standard.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Clemsie McKenzie 08/18/2016 at 11:31

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Typical of early uni-body cars, the TA was massively over-engineered to asuage the public’s fears about it’s lack of a “proper frame”. Unless it’s badly rusted (something TAs are *NOT* known for) I’d bet on the TA vs a modern car in a fender-bender-type accident. Certainly the lack of modern safety equipment means in a high-energy crash the occupants of the TA would fare much worse, but the bodies on those things are very stout.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > duurtlang 08/18/2016 at 11:33

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I still want one, but I just spent $11k on a used tractor, so that pretty much kills my dreams for another few years... unless I can find a cheap project and someplace to work on it (I currently don’t have a garage).

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/18/2016 at 11:58

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Driving down I94 the other day and what do I spot in the opposite lanes but a Model A Coupe with matching trailer/trunk thing (not sure of the official name). Much like what’s pictured below but not hot rodded out, more of a restoration to stock type of deal, wheels and all..